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UFC 100: Will Mir vs Lesnar II be a great fight?


Everyone is betting and banking on Brock Lesnar beating the snot out of Frank Mir come July 11, 2009, but nobody is talking about whether the fight will be a great fight. We think not. In terms of the size and weight differential, this fight might as well be entitled “neighborhood bully bounces the local paper boy”.  Couture vs Lesnar had the same lopsided tale-o’-tape stats.

Don’t Believe The Hype: The sizzle  coming out of UFC Central is all fabricated hype. Joe Rogan and Dana White have to sell as many tickets as they can. Don’t believe the hype. The only time this fight will turn remotely interesting is if  Frank Mir wins – which would be an accidental thriller after the fact. (But even that could turn into a frigging dud too, depending on how Mir would have done it.)

The odds of this fight being great are middling to nil - unless of course Mir pulls off another upset.

The odds of this fight being great are middling to nil - unless of course Mir pulls off another upset.

The reason why a Mir surprise win would spice things up has to do with the 30/70% odds against Mir; which makes him the certified underdog.  If Frank Mir wins, as he quite possibly may, the Mandalay Bay arena will erupt into organized mayhem and a millions of  MMA fans watching at home will snort their Root Beer along with their partly masticated nachos. ( Paper boy bounces up neighborhood bully!)

The overwhelming force that Lesnar unleashed against Mir at the beginning of the first round of UFC 81 makes a Lesnar victory a foregone conclusion. In that sense a Lesnar victory would not make for any exciting news breaks. (Neighborhood bully bounces local paper boy.)  Given the speed and agility  Lesnar has already demonstrated, that 25lb weight  and size difference is gonna be too hard for Mir to overcome.

On Being Like Lyoto: On second thoughts we think Mir could benefit a little by taking a coupla pages out of the Lyoto Machida playbook, but that is easier said than done. Frank Mir is no Lyoto Machida and Lyoto Machida has never faced a brute like Brock Lesnar. But having said that, fleet-footed evasiveness while delivering punishing leg kicks and (where safe) pin-point blows to the head may be Mir’s best chance of surviving rounds one and two, (if the fight goes that far.) Round three would be a time to go for broke by closing the gap and taking his chances with submitting the beast. If Mir brings questionable toughness or weak-ass cardio, it will be over before it has even begun.

Of Brock Lesnar & Sir Charles: Brock Lesnar reminds us a lot of another  athlete from a different sport: Sir Charles Barkley. Both are physically imposing athletes with a skill quotient that gives their physical prowess a run for its money. But there is a downside to being Yokozuna in a sport that glorifies speed, agility and Michael Jordanesque skill.

Call Your Balls: (Otherwise what’s the fun?) We are calling this fight for Lesnar by a referee stoppage in the first or second round. But our sentimental favorite to win this by a submission in the first or third round, is Frank Mir. A knockout would be nice, but we are no dreamers.

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Frank Mir And UFC 100: The chance of a lifetime to represent MMA values at their best


UFC 100 is here, and so is Frank Mir’s chance of a lifetime to represent MMA values at their best  in the much-anticipated David versus Goliath re-match with putative title-holder, Brock Lesnar (3-1-0). (Check out the Yahoo countdown to  UFC 100. Click on the video player for the pre-fight previews.)

At about 30% versus a whopping 70% for Lesnar,  very few bettors are giving Mir much of a chance of kicking Lesnar’s butt and pulling off another upset,  UFC 81 style. But that’s really neither here nor there where hard-core  MMA fans are concerned.

Mir of the Gods (right) vs The Brock: A possible thriller in the making.

Mir of the Gods (right) vs The Brock in UFC 100 at the Mandalay Bay on July 11, 2009: A possible thriller in the making following the electrifying seconds of UFC 81.

Win Place Or Show: All Mir has to do is come in the best shape of his life and represent MMA the way Randy Couture represented it at UFC 91.  What that means is that,  win or lose,  Mir can still show the world what the heart, mind and soul of a tried-and-true  MMA pugilist is all about; namely drop-dead skill unencumbered by presumptions of  force. This approach calls for a different kind of approach …. A different kind of method. (A page from Lyoto Machida‘s book could perhaps be helpful, but we can’t say for sure.)

Of Mixed Martial Arts and Pachyderms: If there ever was an elephant-in-the-room question, it is simply this: Who is best suited to carry the UFC banner into a post-Liddell world? Or put another way: Who is best suited to be one of the poster boys, not just for UFC, but MMA at large? In certain ways  this question  is bigger than who is gonna win this hyped-up tournament, right up there with the need to split the heavyweight division so that size does not become the  inordinate factor in determining who wins or loses.

Our no-brainer vote goes with Frank Mir. Why? Well, he has the skills, smarts and spirit of what MMA is all about for starters.  Which leads us to believe that beyond MMA pugilism, Mir has a future as an MMA commentator, the wry trash talking schtick notwithstanding.  Brock Lesnar is a contender, but he still has a long way to go before he, pound-for-pound, starts matching the mettle of fighters like Mir and Couture et al.

“(Brock Lesnar) wants to smash me to smithereens and put his fist down my throat, which I understand. But I want to choke him unconscious until he does the fish on the ground.” Frank Mir mouthing off about UFC 100 at the Arnold Classic 2009 Expo.  Oi vei!

But the beauty of UFC 100 is that beyond representin’,  Mir  could pull off an upset of Lesnar by yet another submission. He just has to find a way to weather the initial barrage that Lesnar may unleash on him. If Mir can find a way to inflict punishing leg kicks on Lesnar’s without being grounded and pounded, then he will have a tool that may just win him the fight. Without full leg power and balance, Lesnar’s explosiveness in the stand-up game would not be possible. But the strategy is fraught with all kinds of dangers for Mir as UFC 81 demonstrated. The moment Mir tried to kick Lesnar’s leg, he got grounded and pounded almost into oblivion. Most fighters tend to leave themselves open to immediate counter-attack not to mention momentary loss of balance in average kick situations. Lyoto Machida has a way to deal with this. Firstly, he delivers his kicks from way out of the strike zone. And secondly he employs tremendous speed and retracts his leg immediately upon impact to regain instant balance.

Mir’s other vulnerability lies in possibly getting caught by one of Lesnar’s iron fists and losing his wits. The Lesnar right hand, that knocked Heath Herring on his ass and tumbled him like a bowling pin,  is still awe-inspiring in its power, speed and sinewy reach. Check the slow motion replay of that blow and you will become an instant believer in how dangerous Lesnar can be on his feet. Notice how his feet for the perfect spring-board for that reach. It’s almost as if Herring didn’t have the time to block that right hand or get out of the way.

Mir will be particularly vulnerable in the average  ground-and-pound situation because of Lesnar’s amazing strength. This is why Mir needs  tremendous  strength to be able to wiggle out of  dangerous mount situations Heath Herring-style. Mir nearly lost UFC 81 when Lesnar took him down at will and started raining those knuckled bricks upon his head. The video is still a thriller to watch.

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu wunderkind, Frank Mir.

The sangfroid of a chessmaster & stealth of an anaconda - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu wunderkind and all round Mr. Nice Guy, Frank Mir: The Nogueria fight proved that he is no softie when it comes to decking formidable opponents on cue. On the side, UFC & Dana White could use his candid & perceptive style of fight analysis.

Endgame Scenarios: Do not get us wrong. We think Mir will fight a nervy,  smart fight and never fall into the trap of trying to out-Brock Brock Lesnar:  i.e. rushing him Tank Abott style or trying to land a Liddell-style haymaker. Beyond his own strength and conditioning,  Mir is gonna need a couple of mistakes on the part of Lesnar to open the door for him. And given Lesnar’s  inexperience, there is a good chance that he will open that door once or twice. (While on the subject we here at Cyberaxis would give a lot to find out what kind of a chin Lesnar has on that thick neck of his. A well placed blow, right on the button like the  shot that  brought down Gonzaga will answer that question in a Las Vegas second.  But we digress.  Mir ain’t no Carwin and Lesnar ain’t no Gonzaga.)

Lesnar’s strategic challenges  are not as diminutive as they may appear at first. The question of the night is, does he rush Mir and bounce him off the octagon  floor the way he did Heath Herring  at the beginning of  UFC 87 or does he settle for feeling him out until a great attack  opportunity presents itself? If he settles for the rope-a-dope or odd mount fight that he had with Herring, our money is on Frank Mir to put a sneaky kibosh on the Brock’s ass . Short of Lesnar making some stupid mistake in the first round, Mir’s best strategy beyond inflicting punishing leg kicks, would to evade or smother Lesnar’s power in the earlier rounds and then moving in on him like an anaconda. Yep. Lesnar does need choking, before being relegated to the Butterbean realm of the super heavyweight division.

Skill Over Size: Frank Mir puts the kibosh on Brock Lesnar in UFC 81 and temporarily quietens the waters roiled by Brock Lesnar's fast tracked ascension to heavyweight championship.

Skill Over Size: Frank Mir puts the kibosh on Brock Lesnar in UFC 81 and temporarily quietens the waters roiled by Brock Lesnar's fast tracked ascension to heavyweight championship.

See update to this story under “UFC 100 Postmortem” below. The full video of the fight can for the time being be located at regretfulmorning.com here.

Appendices:

The Trouble With Frank Mir: Divergent ways of dealing with post fight trauma (Cyberaxis) – Brand New Post -

Frank Mir needs to learn to keep his mouth shut (Cyberaxis)

Lesnar vs Carwin in UFC 106: The next step in the ascent of Brock Lesnar (Cyberaxis)

UFC 100 Post-mortem: Brock Lesnar pummels Frank Mir into a bloody mess (Full video – while it lasts) (Cyberaxis)

Why UFC 104 with Machida vs Jackson would have eclipsed UFC 100 (Cyberaxis)

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