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Frank Mir talks about loss to Shane Carwin – Cyberaxis reflections on the interview


First of all, it is clear, upon closer analysis, that the Shane Carwin pummeling and loss did a major number on Frank – a big part of which had to do with the way he set himself up going into this fight (physically, mentally and emotionally) on top of the Lesnar/UFC public relations albatross he hung around his own neck. The fact of the matter – if you analyze the language, body and otherwise – is that he is devastated and not yet out of the woods on this one.  Think Rashad Evans after Machida – but with the detritus of his pre-fight antics still in the air.  Mir is ultra subdued and this picture is worth a thousand words.

The fact that it took him this long to even talk about his UFC 111 loss  speaks volumes about the wallop he took from it.  But the humility, whether enforced or not, is a tad more becoming than the unmoored smack-talking before the fight.  In certain ways it hacks back to the man  Frank Mir could be – the man we praised in the pre-UFC 81 article here. But that is were the commendable stuff ends.

Everything else in this short interview makes little sense. Take your time. Listen to it and then come back. If his breakdown of the fight doesn’t leave you scratching your head, then we don’t know what will.   Is the man we once thought of  as one of the most cerebral in the octagon  a one trick pony reduced to learning one thing per fight?

It became a problem of over-training for one aspect. I was so obsessed with not being taken down . You can see when he shot on me I was so appeased  with myself, I said look you can’t take me down.  You are an excellent wrestler  and I think I was just celebrating mentally saying hey look, I can avoid the takedown. I have improved my game.  I forgot about being punched in the face. (Frank Mir to David Stanford, Edmonton, Canada, MMACanada.Net)

A stunning revelation considering that Frank had had to move his head out of the way a couple of times after  being hit with sneaky rights in the clinch position.  Unbelievable.  We think  Frank was just talking off the cuff and trying his loquacious best explain away a fight in which he did most things wrong. He cannot win if he goes into fights with one plan and fails to adapt on the fly. He should have realized the danger he was in when Carwin kept roughing up  his knees and pummeling his face with sneaky rights in the clinch position.  The ultra-relaxed demeanor is what partly got him in trouble when he found himself underneath a hyper-aggressive Brock Lesnar at UFC 100. What gives here? Never let them see you sweat? Sheesh!

Is the big revelation of the interview that he cannot win as a “muscle-head”, and need to take more of his chances as a tactical fighter? Sorry. Been tried before – and by a fighter who is perhaps a better all-round heavyweight than him: Randy Couture. And he fared only marginally better. Ditto the Texas Crazy Horse.  Our conclusion? Interviews are not gonna help Frank Mir in the interim. A better PR strategy would be to remain mum and let his fists do all the talking – but that would be like asking Frank to quit gabbing without the benefit of a rehabilitatory half-way house.

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Frank Mir’s Other Moment Of Truth: Karmic Denouement At UFC 111


As minutes to UFC 111  tick down, fans huddle behind bars and computer screens, caught up in the vicarious heaving and hoeing of conjecture, suspense and roller-coaster emotions that usually attend these events. For Frank Mir an unscheduled moment of truth may be about to hit him ….  up on his knees shaking his head after being knocked down or out. The crowd is going crazy and Mir knows it is not for him. Not for him. He looks up at his wife and something passes between them. It is time – but its OK,  they have each other.

Frank Mir chiaroscuro

Could UFC 111 be the road to nowhere for Frank Mir? He may find this out sooner than later because Brock Lesnar is a dead end.

Fantasy? Yeah, perhaps, but we seriously doubt it. Especially the essence of the hunch that Frank Mir, the  60 to 40 favorite,  is walking into an upset that will come as a result of being knocked out after being overwhelmed by Carwin’s strength. Frank may have hit 264.5lbs at the height of bulking up, but that does not necessarily translate into functional strength and endurance.  Carwin, whose last weigh-in weight at UFC 96 was 259.5lbs, said he had to cut weight to meet the 265lbs limit. He is the more compact of the two and arguably the more naturally strong. We think that beyond skill, this is what is gonna carry the day. Franks’s new-fangled boxing skills, although marginally better than Carwin’s, are not gonna carry the day because in order to deploy them, he will have to enter the event horizon where anything can and often does happen.  The more Mir boxes with Carwin, the more he stands the chance of being knocked down or out by that short right. And the more he wrestles with Carwin, the more he stands the chance of tasting Carwin’s raw strength (something he shares with Lesnar) and his  ground-and-pound chops. The latter  ain’t pretty but they get the job done. End of story.

Injury Caveat: The other thing Frank needs to look out for are the possibilities for serious injuries. We were concerned for him  at UFC 100 and the outcome almost bore our fears out. He needs to look out for himself in this fight and not  (to put it into his own words) let his ego get in the way.

So Cyberaxis is  calling UFC 111 for Shane Carwin in the first or second round by knock our or TKO. Mark the date stamps on this post if in doubt our intentions to stick by our prediction. Take a screen shot for good measure.

Lessons Learned: Losing is gonna be a tough pill for Frank Mir but it will turn him into a better human being and competitor. You will know about this because he will tell you in time. When the time comes he will tell you that losing afforded  him a chance  to re-center himself and find a sense of perspective in a world that had become topsy-turvy with his loss to Brock Lesnar. Losing will turn Mir’s his energies inward where they should have been oriented in the first place.

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Frank Mir’s risky stance going into UFC 111


It almost has nothing to commend it for  and a lot to mark it as a veritable albatross around an MMA pugilist who doesn’t need any at this late in his career. We are talking about Frank Mir  and his  willful decision to look past his UFC  111 opponent, Shane Carwin, to some fantasized  rematch with Brock Lesnar which may never happen. Plain stupid and strategically ill-advised if you ask us. Add to that the fairly recent  interview in which Mir expressed a desire to see Lesnar be the first man to die from octagon-related injuries, and you have a string of faux pas that should be  spread out over a fighter’s lifetime instead of 12 months.

Frank Mir

Frank Mir – Risky Business

Mir’s missteps recall Brock Lesnar’s own public relations blunders which have only been mitigated by his convincing wins, but the truth of the matter is that his decision to play the braggadocious heel has put him on a slippery perch for the rest of his UFC career –  something UFC stalwarts like Randy Couture have never had to put up with.  Oh well, to each their own – Frank Mir included we guess.

Why Frank would  wanna look past Shane Carwin,  a guy who could bounce him off the octagon Brock-style,  is probably a function of his mental state, which  seems a bit catawampus lately.  Anything can happen in this fight and for Frank to carry on like like his victory is fait accompli is to confuse his obsession with fantasies about dispatching dangerous opponents:

“There is just something inside me now that I can’t get rid of and it hurts all the time. It’s the dreams I have at night about Brock [Lesnar]. If I don’t get to go in there and physically hurt Brock, then I don’t know if I can live with myself. My stand up has been just steamrolling, better and better every fight. I boxed with Nogueira for seven minutes and Nogueira… I made him look silly. I caught Cheick Kongo, who is probably the best striker we have in the UFC, and I put him out in about a minute. I’m 265 lbs. now, and I’m quick and I’m skilled. Everything says in my heart and in my will that I won’t be denied. I have to have this. I want him [Shane Carwin] to know that he came in there full and strong and ready and I still took his heart out of his chest. He might hate Brock, but he don’t hate him as much as I do. That’s the difference of feeling the power that I will come out on top on UFC 111.”  – Frank Mir (As quoted by the  Bleacher Report)

The Distortive Rear View Mirror and the Albatross:

My stand up has been just steamrolling, better and better every fight. I boxed with Nogueira for seven minutes and Nogueira… I made him look silly.

Oh really? Google Frank Mir vs Nogueira to see just how silly Mir make Nogueira look. Distortive rear-view mirror look? You bet.

“I caught Cheick Kongo, who is probably the best striker we have in the UFC, and I put him out in about a minute.”

Oh really? Kongo is the best striker we have in the UFC? Frank needs to have his head examined. And bragging about his victory over Kongo is the last thing a man like Mir should be doing unless he is grabbing at emotional straws to bolster a frazzled ego. Kongo is a zero at this point in UFC. He took two long rounds to submit a hapless Buentello after countless takedowns he could not capitalize on. And the striking? Where was the best striker in the UFC that night? Frank kind of reminds us of that Foster Farms chicken impostor – all full of salt water and little else. And talking about which, he does look quite porked up. Look at his belly in that Noguiera video.  Lean mass? What lean mass? You will see what lean mass looks like when he squares up against a granite block of a manhood named Shane Carwin.

“He might hate Brock, but he don’t hate him as much as I do. That’s the difference of  feeling the power that I will come out on top on UFC 111.”

So Frank Mir’s motivation going into this fight is predicated on hatred of the man he lost to in UFC 100 back in July of 2009? (Note that George St. Pierre was also on that card against Thiago Alves.) What convoluted mental and emotional baggage – and one that belittles the significance of the man who is gonna be standing in front of him tonight.  Our published prediction is that Mir will be shocked tonight and that experience will be ultimately good for exorcising the demons he has allowed to claim residence in his psyche.

Mir’s whole public spiel has been the figurative equivalent of putting a millstone around his own neck: The “death in the Octagon” remark when Lesnar was just over fighting a life threatening disease, the diss of Antonio Noguiera, the unwarranted celebration of his victory against Kongo and the looking past  Shane Carwin who could turn out his headlights.

And while we have to admit that there are many unknowns around a hypothetical re-matching up of Frank Mir and Brock Lesnar, a Mir win against Shane Carwin tonight would not necessarily mean that Frank Mir has found a way to resolve the vulnerabilities that led to his being pummeled into a bloody mess by Brock Lesnar. For the record, we had predicted a Lesnar win against Carwin in the match-up planned before Lesnar’s illness. So beating a man who we predicted was gonna be beaten by Lesnar is no prediction of better prospects Mir’s future.

So all this yakking has done nothing for Mir except put the burden of performance on him. If you talk the talk …. You know the spiel. The other thing Mir’s yakking has done is to make Brock Lesnar almost look like a gentleman, an impressive feat given the trog antics that Lesnar put on full display at UFC 100.

As much as is possible, enjoy UFC 111. May the worst man lose. Yah get the drift. Good day.

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MMA Live March 25, 2010 – UFC 111, Preview plus other fighters